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His second problem was 330 million gods of Hinduism, while the Upanishads make no such references.
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I have no idea where u are getting all this information.
Buddha was not at all interested in theism in the first place, whether polytheism, or monotheism or monism.
Noeticcenter: Buddha was presenting an Atheistic (non-theistic) alternative to polytheism. I do not see any disagreement here, that you are citing.
[Jeannette] Agnostic Forum]
"Great indeed are the devas(gods) who have sprung out of Brahman."
---Atharva Veda
[Noeticcenter]
True. But Buddha had no need of them.
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Yup, he was only interested in attaining moksha or nirvana or enlightenment through self-effort.
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So, he got rid of all of them and declared Nirvana as the end of Reincarnations. |
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The goal of Hinduism as well is Nirvana or Moksha or liberation from the cycle of birth or rebirth.Swami Vivekananda had stated Buddhism to be the logical fulfilment of Hinduism.. |
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His version of Hinduism (Buddhism) swept across India all the way to Shri Lanka, Burma and Tibet- all then parts of Bharat/Hindustan (India).
[Jeannette] Agnostic Forum]
Shankaracharya mainly consolidated the teaching of Advaita Vedanta, in which he underlines the unity of the soul and Brahman. Quote:
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Sankar was influenced ALSO by the Monotheism of the Mission of Apostle Tomas in India, especially to the Cochin Jews Kerala. St. Thomas landed was very close to his grand parents around 53 A.D. | [Jeannette] Agnostic Forum]
Both monism and monotheism are a part of the Vedas and the Upanishads, which were created milleniums before Jesus was born. The Bhagavad Gita too, which was written milleniums before Jesus,was also basically monistic and monotheistic.
noeticcenter:
I used the word "ALSO" deliberately. Perhaps you di not notice that.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that Shankara was influenced by the Mission of St.Thomas, so I have no idea how you can even say 'ALSO.'
And basically Shankara preached monism, not even monotheism.
Both monism and monotheism has been taught in the vedas, upanishads, yoga vasistha, and bhagavad gita, milleniums before Jesus was born.
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Buddha died an ordinary death and his body was burned according to customs. Some could not believe this.
[Jeannette] Agnostic Forum]
Buddha physical body died and he attained parinirvana. What is so unbelievable about this!!!!! The impermanence of all compounded things is a primary teaching of the Buddha.
noeticcenter:
I refer you to http://noeticcenter.tripod.com
OR NueroQunatology Journal 2007, June and September #'s
& Noetic Journal, October 2003, Vol 4 # 4 for Mind Matter (Nobelist Sir John Eccles Centennial Edition)
OR BROWSE on the internet for Dark Chemistry Dark Matter Dark Chemistry and Dark Matter
Dark Chemistry or Psychic Pixels
There is a scientific possibility of an Invisible Homo sapiens for every human, (no invisble bodies for plants and animals, though there could be a universal sentience at the PLANT level in all animals and humans)
Buddha died in pain as all normal human beings usually do when dying CONSCIOUS at the last moment. His followers thought He attained Nirvana. There is no eye witness account of Nirvana, never can be.
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Great nonsense. Buddha's physical body was in pain, due to the poisoned food he had consumed, but he was in the bliss, peace and ecstacy of enlightenment which he had obtained when he was 35. He showed remarkable clarity of mind, and awareness and composure in his last moments and even then was teaching his disciples and exhorting them to tread the path earnestly.
And Nirvana is a subjective experience. There indeed can be no eyewitness account. It is completely in oneself, though its visible manifestations are in great wisdom, sensation of peaceful vibrations,serenity and love in a buddhas presence, and faster development of ones spiritual state in his presence.
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The Buddha's last words were thus," "All composite things pass away. Strive for your own liberation with diligence".
noeticcenter:
No matter how much you strive, death and according to the Bible JUDGeMENT
for ignoring the Incarnate Messiah are more real than Tax & Government.
The Last Words of the dying (not the RISEN) Yah Shua Messiah were: " Father forgive them...Into Thy Hands I commend my Spirit... then He GAVE UP the spirit" Greek Physician and Historian records that in Luke 23: 46.
Buddha died with STRIVINGS on his tongue, because " the WAGES of sin (strivings of sin) is DEATH, but the GIFT of Elohim is ETERNAL LIFE through Yah Shua Messia, Our Adonai. Romans 6: 23 written by a former cruel enemy of the Cross and an eye witness of the Risen Adonai. |
Wow, thanks for the info, pal. I guess u will go to heaven, and I will go to hell. Do pay me a visit at times, pally