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Originally Posted by Og  We helped Israel gain nuclear weapons behind the non-proliferation treaty for years and are now beating Iran with the treaty and demanding that they don't proceed with nuclear weapon development. |
Although true, it doesn't pose any weight on the proposed situation.
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Originally Posted by Og "Pre-emptive war" is nuts. We need to disassemble our military. The world is such that economics create a continuous unit. For example, if China invaded Taiwan, China's stock market would crash and they'd enter a massive economic depression.
Same would go for anyone attacking us. Attacking another country is like stabbing yourself in the foot these days. |
Curiously interesting economic link, but disassembling the military? Also, if Iran gives nuclear weapons to terrorists, which isn't too far fetched, who's stock market would crash? Al Qaeda's? Like you said, when "attacking another country," Iran isn't likely to attack anyone out right.
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Originally Posted by Og Also, the use of money for these things is absolutely absurd. NIH budget is being slashed. We give more money in support to Israel than the ENTIRE National Science Foundation.
Our priorities are absolutely screwed up. There is a diplomatic solution. Saying that there isn't is the last resort of the incompetent. |
Yeah the money is quite an issue, but would I be in favor of spending it IF it meant a much lesser chance of being randomly nuked? Sure. Would I be in favor of spending it if it meant another Iraq? That's a different question. Going into Iran would most definately have to involve the majority of the people there being on our side to begin with, we're already part of the way there in that respect. And saying a problem Always has a diplomatic solution, and that solution is always attainable, is ignorant at best. So if I understand you correctly, you believe there's always a diplomatic way out, so we can rule out any military action, and further more, disband our entire military. I admit I respect most of what you have to say regarding other issues, but this one seems to be apt to misguided views. What if "the diplomatic solution" involved a willing Russia, Germany, and China all working together to put the most harsh sanctions on the country, and those countries aren't willing, or even 2 of 3. Sure there's a diplomatic solution, will it solve the problem? Not in that case. Somehow I don't see diplomatic solutions working against Hitler, I could be wrong, but that's my view.