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Og · 11-07-2007, 06:40 AM

I don't call it anything really. Transcendence is the notion of categories of thought as illusions. This is something that is necessarily true (i.e. true and false exist because we're talking about them). We can not exist and interact without the notion of boundaries and categories of thought.

But what all the religions speak to is that these are ultimately illusions. That is what transcendence is.

Evidence is that there is a you and a me having this discussion yet the reality is that just because your skin doesn't enfold my neurons, we aren't really different entities. Etc.

This is just the way the universe works. Look at it. Categories of thought define our perception and our concepts. It's not a complex statement to make or one that stretches the imagination.

This is what the pyramid on the US dollar bill is (an old masonic symbol). Everywhere on the pyramid, there is an opposite side (categories of thought and dichotomy). The only place that this is not true is at the apex of the pyramid, and at that place, you find the eye of the divine.

This is what jesus meant when he said "love your enemies" and "hate your family/friends/life".. It's what the story of the garden of eden speaks to (i.e. eating of the fruit of good/evil casts us into the field of time). Jesus' act on the cross is symbolic of the tree of eternal life that returns us to the garden of eden. Eat of Jesus' body at communion and you are conquering original sin (i.e. what cast us out of the garden) and you achieve eternal life (this is what the christians will agree on). Jesus is symbolically the fruit of the tree of eternal life which returns us to paradise while the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil cast us out of the garden.

Jesus' teachings are entirely of this nature. The point is not that jesus is separate from you and me, but that you and I are both christ beings. The christ in jesus and his connection to the divine is within all of us.

Christianity is about a psychological transformation... It's not about physical belief in a literal thing.. And I don't care that the vast majority of the world disagrees. They're just wrong (and also uninformed and their position is not valuable when seeking truth).

11-07-2007, 06:40 AM	#79 (permalink)
Og Campbellite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,676	I don't call it anything really. Transcendence is the notion of categories of thought as illusions. This is something that is necessarily true (i.e. true and false exist because we're talking about them). We can not exist and interact without the notion of boundaries and categories of thought. But what all the religions speak to is that these are ultimately illusions. That is what transcendence is. Evidence is that there is a you and a me having this discussion yet the reality is that just because your skin doesn't enfold my neurons, we aren't really different entities. Etc. This is just the way the universe works. Look at it. Categories of thought define our perception and our concepts. It's not a complex statement to make or one that stretches the imagination. This is what the pyramid on the US dollar bill is (an old masonic symbol). Everywhere on the pyramid, there is an opposite side (categories of thought and dichotomy). The only place that this is not true is at the apex of the pyramid, and at that place, you find the eye of the divine. This is what jesus meant when he said "love your enemies" and "hate your family/friends/life".. It's what the story of the garden of eden speaks to (i.e. eating of the fruit of good/evil casts us into the field of time). Jesus' act on the cross is symbolic of the tree of eternal life that returns us to the garden of eden. Eat of Jesus' body at communion and you are conquering original sin (i.e. what cast us out of the garden) and you achieve eternal life (this is what the christians will agree on). Jesus is symbolically the fruit of the tree of eternal life which returns us to paradise while the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil cast us out of the garden. Jesus' teachings are entirely of this nature. The point is not that jesus is separate from you and me, but that you and I are both christ beings. The christ in jesus and his connection to the divine is within all of us. Christianity is about a psychological transformation... It's not about physical belief in a literal thing.. And I don't care that the vast majority of the world disagrees. They're just wrong (and also uninformed and their position is not valuable when seeking truth). __________________ Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe) The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi Become Who You Are