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Originally Posted by godlovesyou all created is a strong evidence that god exists. | I disagree. For one thing, we have no credible evidence that it was "created" by a sentient being. Also consider, please, that if there actually is a creating being it could be completely unlike the god described in your Bible. |
might you explain how you think the universe came to be, if no creator made it. shure, many religions give answers, of how god might be, but only one is the reality. its up to us, to find it. however, we are very limited beings. So , if there is a creator, he has to reveal himself to us, so that we can know him. Does any creator reveal to humanity. I believe so. The bible cannot be a invention of men. only god knows the future. the bible has made more than 6000 prophecies, of which moreless half fullfilled.
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life comes only from life. from dead materia, a living organism can never appear.This is not yet established as a fact..
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then lets examine the probability, live came to existance by chance.
Mark Ludwig in his book "Computer Viruses, Artificial Life and Evolution" states:
E. Coli is one of the simplest living organisms. As of today the only thing simpler is a virus and they need the inside of a cell to live. E. Coli has a DNA molecule which is about 4,000,000 nucleotides long. Each of these four million sites is occupied by one of four different nucleotides. So, the probability of creating it at random from the right bases is 1 in 44,000,000 = 1 in 103,000,000. Putting every atom in the universe to work synthesizing molecules wouldn't even put a dent in this number. Evolutionists suggest with the redundancy of the genetic code we could shrink this number down to 102,300,000. After this the number may be able to be shrunk more but most scientists believe that the number would also get much bigger as we begin to factor in different types of chemical bonds and isomers of the nucleic acids, all of which must be in just the right order for the molecules to work as they are supposed to.
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What *is* life, after all? We might be no more than complex flesh robots, our sentience and consciousness merely the aggregate of electrical patterns traversing our complex neural networks.
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you gave the answer. consciousness differs live from non-live.
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In biochemistry, it has already been established that self-replicating molecules exist. As science continues to explore abiogenesis, I am confident that each year will bring us more and more accurate answers regarding the origin of life.
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probability of random chance gives already the answer. so , you wast your time, waiting for such answers.
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For the record, I am an agnostic Norse pagan and non-theist Buddhist with a strong interest in science. Regarding the god(s) of the Bible, I am atheistic, about 6/7 on the Dawkins scale: "I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."
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i am 100% shure, without God, live is absolutely impossible, and its totally irracional to cogitate live can exist without God.