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Old 10-21-2007, 03:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The main reasons most of the gospels were left out of the Bible are because they were 2nd century and contradict themselves. King James wasn't even alive then.
There are plenty of contradictions in the ones that were included. And even the gospels found in the finalized version of the New Testament could have been written in the second century. The date range includes not only when the apostles might have been alive in the latter half of the first century, but also the first half of the second century. Either way, they would have been writing decades (at least) after the supposed events of the NT.

As far as the KJV, those who compiled it did decide which books should be included (and therefore translated), just like all other compilers have done. There are multiple canons.

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The claim that "From Christ's birth to present times the Bible has been translated into many languages and versions each time losing just a little bit of the original." has no support that I've heard of.
There are several issues here. First of all, the NT writers were not using the original Hebrew OT they were using a translation. (I believe it was Greek.) Secondly, as far as translations altering the meaning or interpretation of text, please see my post here.

To be perfectly honest, just do a little research of your own. The information isn’t hard to find.
You got that right!!

PRAISE GOD.
First let me start out by saying most Bibles have thousands of errors in them.Thats right,THOUSANDS!!!
The original translation of the Bible has been change due to opinion,conjecture,errors and many other reasons.When it comes to the Bible I believe that the Truth,no matter how small,must be told.The best Bible is one translated in English from the original Hebrew Text as close to the text as possible.With no conjecture or opinion.Why,there are hundreds of words in the Bible that scholars are unsure of.They don't know how to define them yet when you get to such a passage do they inform you of this in a side note in your Bible?
Most scholars begin with a different set of available manuscripts,from scribes of varying (and uncertain) reliability.They each use different methods for resolving textual problems.So the experts come to different conclusions as to what is the best Bible text.
The result is a Bible whose text is continually changing,the changes being justified to preserve the accuracy of tradition.
You've heard of Masorah?
Masoretic Text? A Bible that accords with the Masorah?

Do you know who Aaron ben Moses Ben-Asher is?

How about Samuel ben Jacob? His work is the oldest known complete Hebrew Bible,it has since become known as the Leningrad Codex.In this Bible if they don't know the meaning of a word in a side note you get:Meaning of Heb. uncertain or a change in vocalization yeilds.....etc,etc.
This O.T. Bible only has hundreds of errors in it,which is impressive given the millions of chararters in the Hebrew Text.In the Russian National Library this Codex is offically catalogued as Firkovich B19A.

The Jewish publication society use this Codex and the Hebrew english Tanakh is as close as you can get to the Hebrew text in English.I have this Bible and know for a fact that it is different,in language, from any Bible I've ever read and like you I have read many of them.
PRAISE GOD.

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