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Originally Posted by romansh I would argue the definite and strict laws!
Newtonian laws seem fairly rigorous and predictable but chaotic systems can easily occur from them. Just tiny changes in the initial conditions can give widely differing results. Then throw in quantum fluctuations.... sorry not predictable. Except by a supreme sentient being? Just joking.
On top of that, quantum physics is still a maturing science and everything is not defined. As though physics was not complicated enough, some physicists are begining believe these strict laws change with time.
So whateer the universe is it is not clockwork
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With our current understanding, I totally agree.
However I read some very interesting theories in 'Parallel worlds' by Michio Kaku which are very interesting.
100 years ago, the technology and understanding we have now would have seemed way beyond the average educated person. In another 200, 500, or thousand years, we just have no way of knowing. Hence why I can accept a theory that it might eventually be possible. Although naturally it seems extremely unlikely. As I said earlier, the system is just too chaotic for any such thing to seem reasonable to us at this time.
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and for me there is the (sad) case where a man started molesting his daughter, there was no previous history of him doing so. It turned out he had a growth in his brain. The tumour was removed his urges stopped. Eventually the urge to molest returned together with the tumour.
The first couple of examples are trivial, but we must (I think) accept we are chemical machines to some degree.
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This is one example of the sort of thing that leads me to think we are quite possibly just chemical machines. Physical, scientifically explainable changes inside our bodies beyond our control can lead to changes in behaviour ranging from subtle to extreme and anything in between.