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Old 09-26-2007, 11:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You sound upset...

Should we take this as you cannot rebut anything that has already been stated....yes?
Not upset. Annoyed. I have been in debates long enough to know when they get into the etymology of words etc, it's a lost cause. It gets boring rather quickly.

I have asked for the very direct sentence of JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE. Not your mis informed opinion of taking a word out of the original context. I decided to look at the passages you quoted, found that I understood it once I read it in context. I have also noted people with an agenda will find any word in any book to fit their belief regardless if it's true or not. Nowhere in the Koran does it state JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE. I don't need to be a Muslim to know that. I just have to have some sort of clue. And when I was in doubt I simply asked a Muslim: So does your faith believe in Jesus creating the universe? I got a big fat easy to understand explanation of NO we do not. I think I will take the word of a practicing person of that faith on that religion.
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Oh ok. Just curious as to where you are coming from. You do speak and read Arabic though, correct? I mean since you quoted it in Arabic I assume you can read what you quoted? I ask because since I don't I go to Lecter since it's his native language and he can explain things to me clearly. I don't rely on google. Not that you do. I just wanted you to know I am getting my information and education from an actual practicing and fundamentalist Muslim.

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But...not what his book of faith states...obviously.
Well you can't be able to one, produce to me directly the sentence from the Koran that backs up your claim that JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE. And two,you seem to have the ability to read something that isn't there. And three, Islam does not believe Jesus created the universe. And their book of faith does no either. So stop side tracking and produce the words from the Koran (not what you think it says, not what you interpret it to say but the words JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE. Until then I will stop responding and just read as to not distract you from your claim about a belief of a religion you are not even a member of. Because apparently all the other Muslims of the world are wrong about their own faith when they say Jesus did not create the universe. Who knew you, of all people in the known universe in all the ages could show them, the actualy Islamics the error of their own belief......obviously.
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