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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna If you are gonna quote then quote it right. You quoted a paragraph under the SUNNI VIEW. You failed to post the paragraph under the Shi'a view. Now who is being deceptive? Don't do that again. Quote:
1) Taqiyah is done for safety reasons. For example, a person fears that he might be killed or harmed, if he does not observe Taqiyah. In this case, it is obligatory to observe Taqiyah.
2) Reconciliatory Taqiyah. This type of Taqiyah is done when a person intends to reconcile with the other side or when he intends to soften their hearts. This kind of Taqiyah is permissible but not obligatory.
3) Sometimes, Taqiyah may cause a more important obligation to be lost or missed, if so it is forbidden. For example, when I know that silence would cause oppression and infidelity to spread and will make people go astray, in such a situation it is not permissible to be silent and to dissimulate.
4) Sometimes, Taqiyah may lead to the death of an innocent person. If so, it is not permissible. It is therefore haram (forbidden) to kill another person to save your own life.[9]
| I gave the link so you could read it ALL and not just pick and choose. You are really bad at attempting to spread hate. Your continual posts only spread your ignorance and lack of ability to make anyone take you seriously.
Let me spell this out in language you can understand. You le suck. |
"You le suck"... this sounds like an idiot using french articles between english words.
Sunnis are great on make up their religion acceptable, but by doing so they are the ones who commit Taqiyya not only over others but them self on the way.
But as stated on their books, which are the same, we can get:
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“Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them” (Qur’an 3:28).
The Sunni Qur’an commentator Ibn Kathir explains that in this verse “Allah prohibited His believing servants from becoming supporters of the disbelievers, or to take them as comrades with whom they develop friendships, rather than the believers.” However, exempted from this rule were “those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, 'We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, 'The Tuqyah [taqiyyah] is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.'"
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Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for a practice of Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. All but some of the most fundamental Muslims consider the act of Al-taqiyya or lying to non-Muslims to be a good work. This is very important when one remembers that, in Islam, salvation is determined by good works. This means that a Muslim lying to a non-Muslim is that Muslim doing a good work to earn salvation.
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You also get MANY hate spreading statements along their books towards Christians and Jews in special.
Bukhari
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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
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Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427:
Narrated 'Aisha and 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas:
When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.
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(This one turns funny, because they're the ones who pray turned to Mecca and made it a place of worship)
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Volume 3, Book 36, Number 471:
Narrated Abu Musa:
The Prophet said, "The example of Muslims, Jews and Christians is like the example of a man who employed laborers to work for him from morning till night for specific wages. They worked till midday and then said, 'We do not need your money which you have fixed for us and let whatever we have done be annulled.' The man said to them, 'Don't quit the work, but complete the rest of it and take your full wages.' But they refused and went away.(...)
etc, this one is a big stock pile of bullshit, but this enough to get the picture.
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When comes to Islam and if you want to know what Islam IS without need to read their books, then listen to the fundamentalist, like Bin Laden, for those are the TRUE Muslims, the remaining ones are either "Taqiyyers" or are reselling the Taqyyia someone make on them (quoting Goebbels: A lie when repeated times enough becomes an incontestable truth).
About taking me serious, I really don't care about your opinion. Keep believing on the "Islam religion of peace" one of the most common Taqiyya BS, since both Shi'as and Sunnis follows Jihad, one by demand as one of the seven pillars (Shi'as), the other not on their five pillars but important as well (Sunnis is "Islam light"), and do not complaint on the day you've to trade your outfit for a burka. Do not think one is out of such just because s/he's on USA, Byzantine emperors were pretty much sure those Ottoman minority wouldn't be a problem... until the day it became in fact a problem.
No one can force you to leave ignorance.
You also may not to kill or harm Muslims, the aim must be the Religion only. Killing or harming people because their religions is potentially a murdering or hazardous one makes you no better than them. And I hope this gets clear, since most people understands attacks on religion to attacks on persons who follow that religion.