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Old 07-31-2007, 01:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
Astreja
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Haha,exactly my point Astreja,it is only wrong because the community says so,not because the Gods do,and as such no man has the right to say then that rape is morally wrong.
What makes the opinion of a god any less subjective than the opinion of a mortal?
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And this problem will stay with you all until divine authority rules,and your judges rule with it,and your citizens follow it
I am of the opinion that "divine authority" will not rule this planet at any time in the foreseeable future. If ever.
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...Be careful that what you do does not help to cause you a disease,or an injury,or to be victimized or thrown in jail,because there are steps in life to be followed, disciplines which must be adhered to, everything in moderation,including those things which may harm your psyche
Simple common sense, in my opinion. I do take care of myself, and encourage family, friends and neighbours to do likewise.

I do find the statement "...which must be adhered to" (emphasis mine) to be just as problematic as the problem of where morality originates. What is this 'must' whereof you speak?
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However,it is still too early for you to make a decision on what happens after life, live a little, grow old and see how you feel later,as you approach your death
I turn fifty next week, Mel. I have already lived *more* than a little. My family tends to be long-lived; but, to quote a line from one of my favourite novels, "I am not certain of drawing my next breath." I prefer to seek my happiness and my meaning in the present moment, as I do not expect my sense of 'me' to survive the eventual death of my brain.
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Humanity" does not exist except as a concept. It's a superset of smaller groups such as one's own family. There is nothing magical about "humanity".
Yet most of humanity especially children have a fixation with magic,with other worlds,with fairies and elfs and magical beings,with films and books involving magic - strange for such an intelligent creature dont you think ?
I intended 'magic' as a metaphor here. And yes, we humans do like our fantasy worlds and storybooks. Perhaps I should have phrased my statement "There is nothing particularly special about humanity."
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Then if one of your family, god forbid, are slaughtered by a self centered criminal after their riches, and who then takes off and is never caught, consider it normal, and do not complain, since to kill, and strive, and take amongst animals is normal
No, murder is not normal in the animal community. AFAIK, numerous species have their own versions of morality. Offenders are killed or kicked out of the tribe, which lessens their survival chances and the chance that they will live to reproduce.

And I, as a sentient being alive in a human community, will continue to complain if I think it necessary to do so. Even if I do my complaining from an entirely subjective point of view, I consider it valid.
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