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Originally Posted by plainskeptic  Dear Gettin' in Tune.
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I appreciate it.
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Belief and non-belief in god(s) is relative to the concept of the deity purposed. Almost everyone, for example, is an atheist relative to the gods of ancient Greece. Theists believe in some concept of god. Christians believe in the god described by Christianity. Muslims, the god described by Islam. Etc.
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A deist was never a theist.
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In my understanding, the claims of agnosticism can range from "I don't know" to "We can't know" whether god(s) exist(s). In practice, agnostics are atheists to some versions of god, but do not know whether some god(s) may exist. I, for example, think the Christian god and the gods of ancient Greece do not exist, but I will not say no god(s) exist(s).
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Deist argue on rational faith........and reason.
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Diests thought reason and observation of nature proved that some creator existed. Diests rejected knowledge of god(s) through revelations such as the Bible.
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Of course, this is not the truth. Lets develop truth.
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Deists said things like, "we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
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Power to the individual and beautiful words spoken. How can atheism ever arrive at this conclusion? Theism.....no way. God deserves our truth even if god is untruthful.
Why are we beautiful?
Why are we alive?
Why do I care about you?
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Since I can't imagine an agnostic saying such a thing, I think deism has practical implications different from the claims of agnostism.
Good luck with your investigations.
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Of course there are practical implications and thank you.