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Old 06-12-2007, 02:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Niranjan ok, no more 'Miss Nice-Girl' from me.

Yu seem to have selective judgements on religion, if you think Islam wrongfully condones the enslavement of people take a look at your own religion which is more specific and louder in legalizing slavery.

Hinduism is the one and only religion in this world which has a documented concept of "Occhut" (Untouchables). It is the only religion in this world which spread racism directly by scripture, and by preachers. Those 'untouchable Dalits' who has been considered as 'slaves' by Aryans, are, no doubt, the most pitiable victims of the "wonderful" Hindu religion.

In ancient Rig-Veda, we find clear mention of slaves. From Aryan scripture, we get three types of slaves [Ref. Pracheen Bharotey Dash-protha : Devraj Channa] -

1. Slaves because of incurring debts

2. Slaves because of loosing in gamble

3. Slaves because of loosing in war.

Since then the slaves are denoted as captivated purchasable product. It has been legalized to have intercourse with the women of defeated side after the war as the women were considered as the "spoil of war".

There are numerous examples in ancient Hindu scriptures where royal sages made relationship with slave-girls. One example may be the birth of Kaksmibaan as depicted in Rig-Veda (1|116) who was born because of the relationship between Dirghotomaa and a slave-girl of Angamhishi. Kobosh-Oilush was also a child of a slave girl.

Hindu scriptures intentionally described slaves as "black", "black-vagina", "inactive" or even "inhuman" etc. Aryans were different for the slaves and it is said that Indra, the soverign of the hindu gods, did this separation (Rig-Veda 2|20|7, 10|22|3, 86|19, Atharva veda 5|13|8).

A Slave was considered nothing but as a property, and (s)he was even allowed to be destroyed for just the benefit of Aryans (Rig-Veda 1|19|8, 5|34|6, 6|25|2, 8|40|6). It was also an ancient tradition to provide a slave girl with a new bride just after the marriage for her convenience in new house. In Vedic literature of later ages, we get an incident of a paramount ruler who made presentation about thousand slave-girls to his clergy [Oitoreyo Brahmmon 39|8].

Ramayan and mahabharat also mentioned about slaves. In an incident of Ramayana, you find Raja Ram meeting with slave community (Dhibor Das) who lived by the bay of Ganges. They used to live their life by fishing, hunting and collecting fruits in near by jungles.

It is quite interesting to note that there is a lot of evidence that slaves were being kept in the palace of Ram and Kaikeyi. (BUT SURPRISINGLY THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE EVIDENCE OF KEEPING SLAVES in the royal mansion of Ravan in Lanka.) We also find a very clear indication of a well-established slave-based Hindu society in Mahabharat .

So there you go niranjan I did not want it to get to this 'tit for tat' but you pushed me to it. The thread was talking about Holy war and you turned it into your own personal attack on Islam as a religion. You talk about slavery like it was something origionating in Islam and its sriptures. SLAVERY HAPPENED, it had it's roots firmly embedded way before the emergance of Islam.

You cant find anything to say about Islam other than the propaganda you get from the media. Get over it and stop hating.

Islam is a beautiful fair and just religion which gave rights to those who had NO rights.
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